More Q & A
On Terror and War
By Michael Albert & Stephen R. Shalom
ZNet, Nov. 15, 2001 A
number of folks feel that current events -- particularly in the last few days
-- have dramatically changed the logic and morality of what has been done in
Afghanistan, calling into question much of the analysis and assessment that
has been offered by critics of the war. Here are some of the questions we have
been asked, and our brief replies.
1. You have expressed skepticism that Osama bin Laden
was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks. Are you still skeptical?
Actually, what we and other advocates of democratic judicial values argued was
not bin Laden's innocence, but that evidence regarding his involvement was not
presented. On November 14 -- more than five weeks after the bombing began --
British Prime Minister Tony Blair declared that the evidence "now leaves no
doubt whatever" that bin Laden was responsible. But isn't the evidence
supposed to precede, not follow, the punishment? In any event, however,
Blair's evidence even at this point is not decisive -- the only real addition
to Blair's earlier dossier are quotes from an unpublicized bin Laden video --
that Britain doesn't have a copy of, but has knowledge of, reports the Los
Angeles Times (15 Nov. 2001) -- that are not given in context and fall
short of an admission. Bin Laden's guilt seems very likely, but the point is
not to convince Blair or one allied government or another or even us, but
public opinion in the Muslim world. Despite
Washington's
initial promise to present evidence publicly, it has yet to do so. Not
only did we never dispute the possibility that bin Laden was involved in some
way, we instead offered an explanation of why he might very well have been
involved, what he was seeking, etc. We suggested that his motive, were he
responsible, was probably to draw the
U.S.
into a massive response, destabilizing the region, a result that still may
occur. More
to the intent of the question, if, when a vigilante mob tries to lynch
someone, it turns out that their suspect actually was guilty, that doesn't
make the mob's actions any less vigilante. And this is true even if the mob
doesn't kill a great many people (mostly victims, not culprits) in the process
of going after their suspect, as has been occurring in Afghanistan.
2. Critics of the war
have warned about mass starvation, genocide, and catastrophe. Weren't these
warnings exaggerated? No.
Opponents of U.S. policy, ourselves included, indicated that human rights and
aid organizations warned that the bombing could lead to a million or even
millions of deaths. And we pointed out that ignoring this warning, regardless
of whether the horror came to pass or not, was an absolutely devastating
commentary upon our ruling and media elites, and on others as well. That
remains exactly the case. We also urged that it was a priority to pressure the
U.S. to stop the bombing, stop the war, and aid in averting this catastrophe.
That is still the priority, in fact. As to
what damage has already been done, no one knows. What has happened, for
example, to the large fraction of the population that has fled to the
heavily-mined countryside? And many harmful consequences of
U.S.
policy will not be felt until later. What will be the future effects, for
example, of losses in grain planting that was disrupted in October? When eyes
turn away, who will be there to assess it? That
a country embarks on a policy that puts a million or more innocent civilians
at risk for political purposes is mass-scale terrorism. If -- and it remains a
big if, regrettably -- the catastrophe is averted that will certainly be a
reason to celebrate, but it will not be not reason to laud those who
aggravated the prospects of disaster in the first place. Playing Russian
Roulette is stupid -- even if you don't end up blowing your head off. Shooting
a gun with a bullet in a random chamber at someone else is immoral, whether or
not you end up committing murder. At
the current time prospects are still very unclear. Yes, the U.S. could cease
hostilities and assist food distribution, thereby reducing the prospect of
catastrophic starvation. But the U.S. seems intent on rejecting any military
let-up, and any pressure we can bring to bear urging this course of action is
no less a priority now than it was yesterday or last week. Aid agencies warned
that the crucial factor was how much food could be gotten in place before the
winter snows and that the bombing interfered with getting the food in. Whether
enough time now remains and whether the necessary effort is made before the
snow arrives remains the critical question.
3. Some have been
critical of the U.S. food drops. But weren't these helpful until the war
provided a means to get food in by land? No.
The food drops were pure PR, perhaps doing more harm than good. And while left
critics of the war certainly argued this, they did so by quoting the World
Food Program, the Red Cross, and others aid agencies, and even the
Financial Times, all of whom issued scathing denunciations of this
propaganda tool. Nothing has changed about that. What has now occurred is that
the Northern Alliance has occupied Kabul, and what’s left of the Taliban has
retreated, it appears, to the mountains, virtually without a fight, under the
weight of the most powerful non-nuclear bombs ever created, perhaps with the
intention of waging an ongoing guerilla war from outside the main cities.
The
end to major fighting in the north may well have welcome humanitarian
consequences. But what does that lead us to conclude about the morality of
U.S. actions? Suppose the Taliban were to release, tomorrow, a proclamation
declaring "we left the cities for the mountains so that the bombing would halt
-- not having us as a target -- and the way would be clear for food aid to get
to our fellow citizens. We have sacrificed our hold on power, to avert
starvation among our people." Would
we take that seriously? It would be true that their having left the field of
battle created the conditions mentioned in the question. It would be true that
it was a choice on their part, and that they could have instead fought on,
leading into the winter, etc. Nevertheless, we would deduce based on our
knowledge of their past policies that they made the choice out of their own
strategic concerns, not out of concern for those suffering hunger. When the
U.S. claims to care about the Afghan poor, we should not relinquish our
critical faculties, just as we wouldn't were the Taliban to make the claim. Note,
incidentally, that it was not the case that U.S. planners "knew" they could
force the Taliban out of the northern cities before winter. Every indication
suggests that the Taliban retreat was as much a surprise to the Pentagon as to
everyone else. Just two days ago Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld was warning
that though victory wouldn't take years, it would take months (which, he
observed, meant that he had 23 months in which to operate).
4. Do you still think
we're targeting civilians in our bombing? We
never thought or stated that the bombing was targeting civilians per se. We
did say that the direct violent affects on civilians were predictable. U.S.
military planners know how often their smart bombs, not to mention their dumb
bombs, miss, and how often their cluster bombs fail to detonate, thereby
spewing future death traps across the land. But
the real issue, from the beginning, was not the hundreds of civilians killed
by bombs, horrible as that is, but the tens or hundreds of thousands, or maybe
more, who might succumb quietly out of camera range. Some will be victims of
the destruction of what little civilian infrastructure there is in the
country: for example, electrical transmission from the power station at the
Kajaki Dam has been knocked out, creating (according to UN officials) the risk
of massive flooding and crop failures (Independent, 8 Nov. 2001). Some
will be driven into the landmine-infested countryside. But the potentially
most disastrous effect of the bombing -- as we always maintained, and as
various aid agencies have warned -- has been to put huge numbers of people at
risk of starvation. And this remains the case. And we said that the latter was
the most abominably heinous aspect of the project -- beyond that it was
undertaken outside the law, indeed specifically to delegitimate the law, and
to maintain military credibility, and to propel a "war on terrorism" whose
purpose to no small degree is to organize domestic fear in pursuit of elite
agendas of financial redistribution from poor to rich and draconian social
reaction against civil liberties.
5. There's been lots of
criticism of the Northern Alliance. But haven't they proven pretty
effective?
Criticism of the Northern Alliance has been not that they are incompetent
soldiers, but social monsters, slightly different in kind from the Taliban,
but small improvement morally. Nothing in the past few days changes the
historical record of the Northern Alliance, and indeed, the first sketchy
reports of executions and looting in cities newly fallen under their control
suggests that their thuggish practices continue. As RAWA, perhaps the foremost
organization fighting for the rights of women in Afghanistan, announced as the
Northern Alliance entered Kabul, "The retreat of the terrorist Taliban from
Kabul is a positive development, but the entering of the rapist and looter
Northern Alliance in the city is nothing but dreadful and shocking news for
about 2 million residents of Kabul whose wounds of the years 1992-96 have not
healed yet. Thousands of people who fled Kabul during the past two months were
saying that they feared coming to power of the NA in Kabul much more than
being scared by the US bombing."
Moreover, while they are no doubt capable warriors, what has occurred has
little or perhaps even nothing to do with their battlefield abilities, since
there was no battle. The Taliban essentially withdrew without a fight,
apparently choosing to cede the cities to continue the struggle from the
mountains, depending on how much there is left to them, under the onslaught of
the bombing.
6. Since the anthrax
probably has a domestic source and since the crash of American Airlines
Flight 587 probably was accidental, don't your concerns about creating more
terrorists seem a little alarmist? Not
at all -- unfortunately -- since people who are newly pushed to desperation by
current policies, by the starvation, by the other continuing policies in the
region, all now highlighted and aggravated, do not overnight manifest their
commitment via terrorist attack, of course. The assessment of this miserable
and depressing prediction against actual outcomes is in the future, not the
present. It is not unlike when critics warned back in the 1980s that
supporting bin Laden and the Mujahideen would have horrible future blowback
ramifications. To say a week or two, or even a year or two after that
prediction that it was proved false would have been a bit premature,
obviously.
7. And your worries
about uprisings throughout the Arab and Muslim worlds (including
nuclear-armed Pakistan) -- weren't these too rather exaggerated? We
and other critics said that the policies undertaken in Afghanistan and
proposed for the rest of the world risked such destabilization. They did, and
they still do. Does anyone think that Pakistan's stability is assured as the
battle moves to the southern Pashtun region of Afghanistan, a region with many
cross-border ties to Pakistan? And if the U.S. decides to expand the "war on
terrorism" to some new defenseless venue, say the Sudan, or perhaps a not
entirely defenseless venue, say Iraq, the prospects of general social
dissolution in the region will enlarge, again.
Numerous surveys in Arab and Muslim nations show extremely high levels of
opposition to the U.S. war, even in supposedly friendly states. Most people
are not inclined to heed bin Laden's call to holy war, but as the U.S. pushes
its dictatorial allies to join Washington's holy war, instability is likely to
spread.
8. Isn't it time to
celebrate the demise of the Taliban and return to healing our country,
setting aside all the negative talk about U.S. criminality, and all the
opposition to U.S. policies? If
the Taliban were finished as a social force, that would be something worth
"celebrating" in that the Taliban is a horrendously reactionary and violent
organization impeding justice by its very existence and practices. But,
regrettably, it is quite possible that they are off planning their next
actions, not disintegrating. As to
setting aside criticisms of the U.S., nothing could be less constructive.
First, to continue to criticize and more importantly raise dissent to pressure
an end to bombing and undertaking food aid in all endangered regions is
paramount. The alternative is too horrible to even entertain.
Second, addressing the just grievances of people throughout the Middle East
and the world regarding U.S. foreign policies is necessary both on behalf of
those who suffer the impact of those policies, and also to eliminate the cause
of support for terrorism against the U.S. And
third, the events in NYC, Washington, and Afghanistan, we are told by our
government, auger a larger project, a war on terrorism, whose character, as we
can already see, is to be quite like that of the Cold War. It will, if it
actually transpires as intended, marshal hate and fear through manipulation
and misrepresentation into support for policies that further enrich and
empower the already rich and powerful. Everyone, at some level, knows this.
The average American is not surprised that corporations and the government
seek to use fear of terror to redistribute funds upward by means of regressive
tax reforms and boondoggle military spending, to gut public programs, to
stifle public debate by calls for patriotism from the media, and to restrict
rights by draconian legislation. But not as commonly understood is that active
dissent can curb these trends and can foster opposite ones on behalf of the
poor, of those who work, and of those who need civil liberties. And dissenters
continuing to dissent and to make known the power of dissent, are thus
absolutely essential, in this, now as at any other time.